The Children of Dudley James Ponting and Grace Florence Pyne
Dudley James Ponting and Grace Florence Ponting formerly Green Taylor nee Pyne (Chapter 13) had four children
- Gracie Joan Ponting. Born 27 July 1906 (Reg Gen Sept Qtr 1906 Hendon 3a 338).
- William Dudley Ponting. Born 22 October 1907 (Reg Gen Dec Qtr 1907 Hendon 3a 312)
- Arthur James Ponting. Born 30 July 1909 (Reg Gen Sept Qtr 1909 Hailsham 2b 79)
- Maude Jeannette Mary Ponting. Born 14 May 1913 (Reg Gen June Qtr 1913 Hailsham 2b 152) (not in picture - see below).￼
Gracie Joan Barton nee Ponting
Gracie Joan Ponting was born on 27 July 1906 at 25 Montrose Avenue, Willesden, the daughter of Dudley James Ponting and Grace Florence Ponting late Green Taylor formerly Pyne.(Reg Gen Sept Qtr 1906 Hendon 3a 338). Her father D J Ponting registered the birth describing himself as an Engineering Works Manager.
"Grace Joan" Ponting was baptised on 15 August 1906 at St Augustine's, Fulham. Dudley and Grace's address was still 25 Montrose Avenue and Dudley gives his occupation as an electrical engineer.
As stated in Chapter 13, it is believed Grace would have moved to Sussex with her
On 24 April 1926, Gracie Joan Ponting, aged 19 years married 28 year old James Richard Barton of Montague Hill, Wartling. Gracie is described as the daughter of Dudley James Ponting, independent. James's is described as a bricklayer, the son of John Henry Barton, grocer. The witnesses were J H Barton and Dudley James Ponting, the bride and groom's fathers. (Reg Gen June Qtr 1926 Hailsham 2b 257). The ancestry of the Barton family is covered in Volume III
￼The wedding was recorded in the local parish magazine and in the local press.
"a pretty wedding took place at St Mary Magdelen Church, Wartling Hill on Saturday between Mr J Barton of Rushlake Green and Miss G J Ponting of London.
The Rev. E T Bird (Vicar of Wartling) officiated and about 80 people were present at the ceremony.
The bride, who was becomingly attired in a pale helitrope two-piece suit, the long coat having small pleats at the sides, carried a large bouquet of lilac. After the ceremony the guests were conveyed to Boreham Street, where, at the home of Mr and Mrs Bert Dawes (who kindly lent their house) a wedding breakfast was held.
Later Mr and Mrs Barton left for their honeymoon, which is being spent in Kent".
The article then goes on to list the presents received including from groom to bride, a Valor Perfection oil stove.
It is interesting that aside from Mr and Mrs D J Ponting (mistyped E J) and Gracie Joan's siblings, William, Arthur and Maud nothing is received from any other member of the Ponting or Pyne family.
Although Dudley had no siblings and all the great uncles and aunts had died aside from Susanna Love there were numerous cousins with whom it would seem that the family had lost touch.￼
James Richard (Jim) and Gracie Joan Barton (Joan) had two children
- John Dudley Barton
- William Arthur Barton. Born 28 February 1931.
￼The family originally lived at Elm Cottage, Puddledock, Wartling, moving to the newly built "Bywood", Ninfield, on which Jim had worked in 1939.
￼The property cost £600 and was acquired from George Lowen, presumably the developer, with the help of two mortgages. The first from The Hastings and East Sussex Building Society of £480.00 requiring repayments of £3. 1s 8d per month for 20 years from 11 September 1939. The mortgage describes the property as
"All that piece or parcel of land situate at Standard Hill in the parish of Ninfield in the County of Sussex abutting on the North or North West of the High Road from Boreham Bridge to Catsfield and Ninfield and being part of the Standard Hill Estate all which said piece or parcel of land with the dimensions thereof (be the same little more or less) is for the purpose of identification only delineated on the plan drawn on the conveyance thereof to the Mortgagers dated the eighteenth day of August one thousand nine hundred and thirty nine and thereon coloured pink and numbered 11 together with the messuage or bungalow erected thereon or on some part thereof and known or intended to be known as "Bywood", Standard Hill, Ninfield aforesaid together. Also with the right of way more particularly mentioned in the said conveyance".
A second mortgage for £100.00 was with Mr Lowen and interest was to run at 4%. A statement at 11 August 1949 showing that interest was being added to the balance, payments totalling £2.10s 0d had been paid between 1944 and 1947 and suggests the balance outstanding £114.12s 8d was repaid in 1949. This seems to have taken place following the death of Grace Florence Ponting and the winding up of the trust created by her father in law, William Ponting.
Jim and Joan lived in Bywood for the remainder of their married life. James Richard Barton died on 13 May 1958 at Bexhill Hospital (Reg Gen June Qtr 1958 Battle 5h 12). Probate was granted to Gracie Joan Barton. His estate was worth £2,181. 18s.
After her husband's death Joan pursued a career in nursing before returning to live at Bywood, Ninfield. In her later years she moved to be nearer her sons. Gracie Joan Barton died in November 1998 aged 92 (Reg Gen November 1998 Milton Keynes A21B 29)
William Dudley Ponting and Mona Catherine Crichton-Browne
William Dudley Ponting was born on 22 October 1907 at 25 Montrose Avenue, London, the son of Dudley James Ponting and Grace Florence Ponting late Green- Taylor formerly Pyne. Dudley who registered the birth is described as of "independent means" (Reg Gen Dec Qtr 1907 Hendon 3a 312).
On 31 July 1935 W D Ponting, a 27 year old army officer arrives in London from Egypt on the 'Otrinto'. He gives his address as Lloyds Bank, Pall Mall. This is clearly only a brief visit home for on 21 May 1937 now aged 29, he arrived in Liverpool from Accra on the Abosso. He gives his occupation as 'Army' and his address as 5a St Johns Wood Road. His permanent place of residence as the Gold Coast.
On 19 June 1937 he married Mona Catherine Crichton-Browne at St Columbo Church, Pont Street, London. William was 29 years old and gives his occupation as a lieutenant in the Royal Scots Fusiliers. He was the son of Dudley James Ponting (deceased) of "independent means". Mona is described as the daughter of Charles Crichton-Browne of "independent means". Both give their address as 54 St John's Wood Road, NW8. The witnesses were Maud Mellor, William's sister (see below) and Ian Buchanan Dunlop (Reg Gen June Qtr 1937 Chelsea 1a 977). Dudley James Ponting had not died by the time his son married.
The marriage was reported in The Glasgow Herald on Monday 21 June 1937
"Scottish Twins Married"
"Double Ceremony at St Columba's"
"Bridgerooms both in the same regiment"
"An interesting double wedding of Scottish twin sisters took place on Saturday at St Columba's (Church of Scotland) Pont Street, London when Miss Gertrude Crichton-Browne was married to Mr Ronald Ewing Patrick of Royal Scot Fusiliers and Miss Mona Crichton-Browne was married to Mr William Dudley Ponting of the same regiment
The brides are the daughters of the late Mr Crichton-Browne and Mrs A R Crichton- Browne of 54 St John's Wood Road, W8. They were born in Edinburgh where their parents formerly lived in Summerside Place
Mr Patrick is the only son of Captain and Mrs J M Patrick of New Zealand and Mr Ponting is the eldest son of the late Mr James Ponting and of Mrs Ponting who has undergone an operation and was not well enough to be present at the ceremony
The sisters had chosen floral decorations of the palest pink and white for the church carried out in hydrangea's and lilies The Reverend Dr Archie Fleming, minister of St Colombo's officiated.
The two maids of honour, Mrs Elsa Cambridge with Miss Gertrude Crichton-Browne and Miss Maud Mellor (half sister of Mr Ponting) with Miss Mona Crichton- Browne did not wait for the brides and follow them into the church in the usual way. They sat in the front pew and during the service held the bouquets and afterwards followed the brides and bridegrooms down the aisle. Mrs Sambridge wore a picturesque gown of pearl grey romaine softly gauged down the front and finished with a cluster of speckled orchids at the waist and her large hat of black straw. Miss Mellor's gown was of flimsy royal blue and white patterned chiffon with a flared skirt and a garland of real pink and white cornflowers at the waist. She wore long blue mittons and a royal blue straw hat.
The brides wore identical wedding gowns of white cobweb lace over satin with long sleeves and trains cut in one. Their veils were of tulle and their headdresses were of pearl and diamante flowers. They carried bouquets of white roses and white heather tied with tartan ribbons. As they are of age they followed the old Scottish custom of not being given away and walked together alone up the church to where their bridegrooms waited for them accompanied by the groomsmen Mr T E Dobson, Royal Corps of Signals was with Mr Patrick and Ian Buchanan Dunlop, Royal Scots Fusiliers was with Mr Ponting.
Following the ceremony Mrs Crichton-Browne wearing a tobacco brown stripped ensemble with a large brown hat received her guests at 40 Pont Street She was assisted by Mrs Patrick who had chosen a dress of navy blue with a hat to tone.
Later, when they left for honeymoon which is to be spent in the South of France and later in Scotland, the brides had not chosen identical dresses Mrs Patrick was in navy blue and white with a hat to match and Mrs Ponting was wearing a brown and white printed dress and cape with brown hat".
The couple appear to start married life abroad and on 2 May 1939 W D Ponting and Mrs M C Ponting arrive in Plymouth from Accra travelling in the 'Abosso'. He is described as an Army Officer of Dallow Road, St John's Wood and again their permanent place of residence is the Gold Coast.
The couple had a son, Colin William Ponting
On 25 August 1949, Mrs M C Ponting and Colin Ponting, family of Lt. Col. W D Ponting (RSF) set sail from Liverpool to Singapore on Empire Hallandale. Also on the voyage was Mrs A R Crichton-Browne noted as "dependent relative of Lt Col W D Ponting RSF". The records indicate that the ship was transporting families to where servicemen were stationed and that they were charged £8 for the voyage. The family's last country of residence was Scotland.
On 27 April 1951 whilst serving in Malaya, William was awarded an OBE.
On 29 November 1951 Mona and Colin arrive in Southampton from Singapore on the 'Dunera'. The address they give is 59, Madrid Road, Barnes
On 30 June 1955 Mona Catherine Ponting and Colin William Ponting sailed from Southampton to Malaya on the "Dhawna", presumably again to where William was serving. Mona gives her address as 3 Kohma Crescent, Saighton Camp.
On 5 July 1957 Mona and Colin again arrived back in the United Kingdom sailing into Southampton on "Empire Oreell" from Singapore. They again give their address as 3 Kohma Crescent and indicate that they are to become permanently resident in the United Kingdom.
From at least the 1960's Colonel W D Ponting, OBE and family lived in Fordingbridge, Hampshire.
William Dudley Ponting died in August 1994 aged 86 years (Reg Gen August 1984 Ringwood & Fordingbridge 18 288).
Mona Catherine Ponting died on 18 December 2008 in Reading, Berks aged 99 years old.
Arthur James Ponting and Amy Millicent Hylda Hopper
Arthur James Ponting was born on 30 July 1909 at The Hollies, Wartling, the son of Dudley James Ponting of "independent means" and Gracie Florence Ponting formerly Pyne. D J Ponting registered the birth (Reg Gen Sept Qtr 1909 Hailsham 2b 79).
On 19 April 1930 20 year old Arthur Ponting sailed from Southampton to Montreal on the Calgario, arriving in Quebec on 28 April 1930. At the time he gives his address as 9 Castellian Road, London, W9. He is travelling alone. His next of kin is his mother Mrs Grace Ponting of 28, Castellain Road and he states that in Canada he is joining his friend Rev. Cannon at 604, Jarvis Street, Toronto, Ontario, He gives his occupation in the United Kingdom as "engineering", but in Canada it is to be "farming".
Although at the time he suggests he is to reside permanently in Canada, on 11 July 1931 Arthur, now a 21 year old farmer returned to the United Kingdom travelling third class on the Laurentenia. He states that his intention is to permanently residing in the United Kingdom and he gives his address as 28, Castellain Road, Maida Vale.
Arthur married Amy Millicent Hylda Hopper "Hylda" on 18 March 1933 at Harrow Road Registry Office (Reg Gen March Qtr 1933 Paddington 1a 148) . Amy M Hopper had arrived with her mother from Canada on 20 June 1919 aged 11 and they were destined for 1 College Road, Gollingham, Kent. An Amy Minnie Hopper, aged 21, returned to Montreal, Canada on the Calgaric arriving on 28 April 1930. 'Hylda' seems to have been sailing on the same ship as her future husband, although they are not together on the passenger list. She was destined to join her father George Charles Hopper and gives an address a P O Box 524 Vancouver. I cannot trace her on the same return journey to England on the Laurentenia that Arthur took in 1931.
The marriage certificate shows that 23 year old Arthur was of "independent means" although his father Dudley was a "commercial traveller". No occupation is given for Amy. Her father was a general contractor. Dudley and George were the witnesses to the marriage. Both parties gave their address as 28 Castellain Road.
The couple had two children
- Ann Hylda Ponting. Born 31 July 1933 in Cuckfield, Sussex
- Alan James Ponting. Born 1940 in Staines, Middlesex
In 1936 the couple were on the electoral roll at 31 Peak Hill, Sydenham, SE26. In 1939 they were living at 172, Broom Road, Twickenham. Arthur is a commercial traveller for a cycle company. Also at the address was Edith Green-Taylor, born 12 January 1920 a butchers assistant (sales). Edith is believed to be the daughter of Reginald Green- Taylor, Arthur's elder half brother (Appendix N)
On 25 March 1947 Arthur and his family set sail for Canada. 38 year old Arthur Ponting, his 39 year old wife, Amy H Ponting, 13 year old daughter Ann and 6 year old son Alan sailed from Southampton to Halifax in Canada on the 'Aquitania', part of the Cunard White Star Line. They were 4 of 1,347 passengers on the voyage. Arthur gave his occupation as a farmer, Amy H gave hers as a housewife. Their last address in England was 18 Kingston Road, Staines, Middlesex and all four indicate that their country of last permanent residence was England but the country of intended future permanent residence is Canada.
Despite their stated intent of residing in Canada, at some point Arthur, Hylda and the two children moved from Canada to the USA.
Arthur J Ponting and Hylda Ponting of Dade, Florida divorced in February 1962 (975/2293/23)
Arthur remarried on 15 June 1962 at Dade, Florida. (2053/16513/23). His new wife was Thelma May Burbank.
On 8 July 1965 Arthur applied for naturalisation to the US. The application indicates that he arrived in the US on 11 December 1954 and was an Industrial Engineer now residing at 242 West 32nd Street, Hialeah, Dade, Florida. He describes himself as 5 ft 9 ½ inches with a fair complexion, brown eyes and auburn hair. The application confirms he married Thelma on 15 June 1962 and that she had been born in the Haddonfield, New Jersey on 17 December 1911.
His first wife Hylda A Ponting died on 4 March 1974 aged 65 in Dade, Florida. The Florida social security death index indicates that she had been born on 15 October 1908, but the Florida Naturalization papers completed on 11 September 1972 show she had been born in Prince Albert, Saskatchewan, Canada on 15 October 1907.
Arthur J Ponting died on 19 September 1981 aged 72 years at Dade, Florida (Florida social security death index). His last address is 33012 Hialeah, Miami - Dade, Florida, USA.
Arthur's widow Thelma May Ponting continued to live at 33012 Hialech until she died in November 1982 aged 70 years old at Dade, Florida (Florida social security death index).
Maude Jeannette Mary Starbuck nee Ponting
Maude Jeannette Mary Ponting was born on 14 May 1913 at The Hollies, Wartling, daughter of Dudley James Ponting and Gracie Florence Ponting late Greene Taylor formerly Pyne.(Reg Gen June Qtr 1913 Hailsham 2b 152). Her father Dudley registered the birth describing himself as a market gardener at the time.
￼It is understood that in her late teens, Maud lived with another family, thought to be the Mackay's. The reasons for this are unclear. It also appears that she took a different surname and not the Mackays for on 19 June 1937 Maud was a witness at her brother William's wedding and she signs her name "Maud Mellor".
On 27 April 1934, 20 year old Miss M J M Mellor of 26 Castellian Road, W8 sailed 1st class on the "Ontaro" from London to Naples. Maud is described as a secretary. Also on the ship were Rev Preb. H F B Mackay, a clergyman aged 70 of All Saints Vicarage, 7 Margaret Street, W1 and Miss A G B Mackay, aged 59 of no occupation who also gives her address as 26 Castellain Road, W8.
Number 26 Castellian Road was presumably next door to where Maud's parents lived until 1933/34 (Chapter 12).
In 1939 Maud J M Mellor (Mellor is crossed out and Starbuck written in its place) was living at Old Parsonage, Church Street, Moreton in Marsh, North Cotswald. Maud was single and gives her occupation as "unpaid nursing and domestic duties". She is living with:
- Alice B Mackay, born 1866
- Agnes G B Mackay, born 1875
- Margaret E Mellor, born 1872
All are single and described as "incapacitated living on limited private means"
When her father Dudley made his will in 1943 he refers to his daughter as "Maud Mellor".
On 15 October 1945 Maud Jeanette Mary Mellor, 32 year old spinster from Long Compton married Leonard Wilson Gayer Starbuck "Gayer", aged 41, an engineer, from Columba, Ceylon at the Parish Church of Long Compton. Leonard was the son of Leonard Sheppard Starbuck, merchant (deceased). Maud is described as the daughter of James Dudley Ponting, independent (deceased). The witnesses were Joan Duckworth and T H Campbell Howes (Reg Gen Dec Qtr 1945 Shipston Warwickshire 6d 2467).
Gayer Starbuck had been born on 28 December 1903 in London , the son of Leonard Sheppard Starbuck and Mabel Isabel Jones (Reg Gen March Qtr 1904. West Ham 4a 458). It is understood that he worked abroad as an engineer and this seems to be confirmed by various ships passenger lists
- On 26 February 1927 Leonard W Starbuck sailed 1st class on the 'Mahana' from London to Colombo , Ceylon. The passenger list describes him as a 23 year old engineer. Interestingly he gives his last address in the United Kingdom as 26 Castellain Road. He also indicates that his usual place of residence was in England.
- On 30 September 1932 Mr L W G Starbuck, a 28 year old engineer sailed 2nd class from London to Colombo, Ceylon on the 'Orford'. This time the address he gives is The Old Palace, Bromley, Kent. Gayer also indicates that the country in which he was last permanently residence was "other parts of the British Empire".
- On 1 September 1936 Leonard W Starbuck, a 32 year old sailed on the 'Patroclus' from Liverpool to Colombo, Ceylon. This time he gives the address Bryn Awelon Street, St Davids, Pembrokeshire and again indicates that his ordinary place of residence is "other parts of British Empire".
After their marriage Gayer and Maud continue to travel from England to Ceylon
- On 19 March 1946, just 5 months after her marriage, 32 year old Mrs M J M Starbuck sails from Liverpool to Colombo, Ceylon on 'Reina Del Pacifico'. She gives her address as 9 Long Compton, Warwickshire and indicates that her usual place of residence is England. I assume Gayer was in Ceylon at this time?
- On 15 September 1949 45 year old Mr L W G Starbuck and 36 year old Mrs M J M Starbuck sail from London to Colombo, Ceylon on the 'Orcades' Leonard gives his occupation as an engineer . The address they give is St Mary's Priory, Titchfield, Hampshire. Both now say that the county where they were last permanently resident was one of "British Possessions"
Gayer and Maud had one son, William Franklin Gayer Starbuck who was born in 1950. The birth is recorded in "Andrews Newspaper Index", newspaper unknown as "3 November 1950 in Columbo, Ceylon, to Maud wife of L.W. Gayer Starbuck, a son"
On 17 April 1956, the family set sail arriving in London on the "Leicestershire" the ship having travelled from Rangoon to Colombo and Aden. Gayer gives his occupation as chief engineer. The family's last place of residence and their intended future place of residence as Ceylon, but there was an intention to stay in the United Kingdom for 4 ½ months. Their address in the UK was to be The Hair, Newsham, Gloucestershire (5223/01).
However they do not appear to have stayed in the country that long, for on 1 September 1956 Mrs M Starbuck and W F Starbuck again arrived in England from Hong Kong on the "S.S. Canton" . They gave their address in the UK as C/O Martins Bank, Hanover Square. W1. Both were last resident in Ceylon with their intended future residence to be England. Mona states she is visiting for an indefinite period, whilst William was here for schooling.
And on 7 September 1956 the whole family set sail from Southampton to Colombo, Ceylon on the 'Willem Rhys'. Gayer is described as a 53 year old engineer. Maud Jeanette Mary Starbuck is now 43 and William is 6 years old. The family give their last address in the UK as The Hale, Newnham, Gloucestershire and all three indicate the country of their last permanent residence and the country of their intended future permanent residence is Ceylon.
At some point the family returned to England permanently. Telephone directories for 1964 through to 1973 list Gayer at Hedge Cottage, Outwood and from 1976 to 1984 at 5 Ledgers Meadow, Cuckfield.
Maude Jeanette Mary Starbuck of 5 Ledgers Meadow, Cuckfield died on 2 May 1984 at Haywards Heath Hospital, West Sussex. Her death certificate describes her as "wife of Leonard Wilson Gayer Starbuck, Chartered Engineer (retired) of 5 Ledgers Meadows, Cuckfield, West Sussex". The certificate gives her maiden name as "Mellor" (Reg Gen May 1984 Haywards Heath 18 930)
Gayer died in January 1994 aged 90 (Reg Gen Jan 1994 Haywards Heath B22 12B).